The ammo is uber-expensive... so what, I take maybe 5 deer a year and sight my rifle in once per season.. probably shoot less than 100 bullets annually. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. 270wsm vs 308?? Below you can see the differences between the 325 Winchester Magnum and the .338 Winchester Short Magnum in terms of external dimensions. If your hunting doesn't require the larger bullet-size the .308 affords, then the .270WSM will have flatter long-range ballistics. Joined May 28, 2017 Messages 36. The BLR has a hammer on it that I've had slip on me. We offer cheap ammo and bulk ammo deals on the most popular ammo calibers. With bullets of 130 to 140 grains, the .270 WSM will buy you between 150 and 200 additional feet per second of velocity. I would appreciate any advice on .270 WSM ammo for elk hunting. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. As illustrated in the chart, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3240 feet per second (fps) while .308 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 2680 fps. As illustrated in the chart, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3240 feet per second (fps) while .308 Winchester rounds travel at a velocity of 2680 fps. Hallo Lutz, für meine 270 WSM kaufte ich vor zwei Monaten 200 270 Geschosse. Just remember that w/ the .270, you're pretty much limited to 140grain bullets. IF... white-tail is all you ever want to shoot with it. You must log in or register to reply here. The VAST majority of my deer have been killed with a 100 gr bullet of one variety or another from a .243 that I have since passed down to my nephew. Violate this principle by, for example, chambering a lightweight, short action rifle for a powerful Magnum cartridge like the .300 WSM and the result will be a dramatic increase in kick. Arms24 OnlineShop | Jagd Sportschiessen Wiederladen To put this into perspective, a Boeing 737 commercial airliner travels at a cruising speed of 600 mph, or 880 fps. True .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum and .308 Winchester ballistics information can vary widely from the displayed information, and it is important to understand that the particular characteristics of a given round can make a substantive difference in its true performance. Die .270 Win ist nach der .308 und 30-06 das weltweit verbreitetste Kaliber. 22 Jun 2005 #2. Du gibst jetzt die 6805 WSM Setztiefe im Netzplatz mit 69,3 mm an. It is a well known cartridge, capable of travelling long distances with lots of energy to knock down your intended target. Pushing a 150-grain bullet to 3250 fps, the .270 WSM certainly earns the Magnum title, but at what cost? Jan 2012, 16:48. Besonders Gebirgsjäger und Steppenjäger schätzen die Qualitäten dieses Kalibers, das optimal auf Gams, Wildschaf und Berghirsch bis 170 kg wirkt. The 7mm-08 vs .308 argument is a newer one, relative to some other cartridge arguments that have now been raging for nearly a century, in the hunting and shooting world, as the 7mm-08 was introduced in the 1980’s. Umso interessanter war es in Anbetracht der in Deutschland bejagba… The .270 is fitted with a .277″ diameter bullet. Dort wurde zu jedem Jagderlebnis Schussentfernung, Fluchtdistanz, Wildbretgewicht & Co. notiert. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. For this reason, the .270 Winchester is used in standard/long action rifles, while the .308 Winchester is the poster child for short action rifles. With the .308, you can go to 180 grain. I managed to cook off a round while I was setting up under a tree one morning when I was in college. Both cartridges have the same .473″ rim diameter. Roll out to 500 yards and the 270 WSM … You won’t see that with a .308. So a .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 3170 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .308 Winchester round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 2620 pounds over the same one foot distance. This round was originally brought to be in the form of the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge, but Winchester commercially produced and sold it as the .308 Winchester. Zum anderen würde mich interessieren, ob eher die 270 WSM oder die 300 WSM sinnvoller ist (Laborierungen, Rückstoß , Preise, Wildbretentwirkung etc. The 308 will have 3 lbs less recoil with a 150grn and still less with the 180. So a .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 3170 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .300 Winchester Magnum round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 3520 pounds over the same one foot distance. The .308 commonly has a 150 to 180 grain range. 325 WSM vs 338 Win Mag. The 270 is a bit flatter....would it make a difference to take either one?/ Thanks. Plus it's a heck of alot cheaper to shoot which could mean more practice at the range and easier on the shoulder. mtmuley . Not trying to make any ground-breaking statements here, but something occurred to me when I was chrono-ing some loads yesterday, which is that my short-action … Like the .270 Weatherby Magnum—released 60 years prior to the .270 WSM—it betters the velocity of the .270 Winchester, but … Within a couple of hours his entire shoulder was bruised and looked like someone had hit him with a baseball bat. A tack driving .308 equipped with a ballistic retcile or an average .270 WSM with a standard scope? 7x64 vs. 270 -> 7x64 schießt etwas schwerere Geschosse mit etwas langsamerer Geschwindigkeit ab. Re: Entscheidungshilfe zwischen 270 oder 300 wsm. 1 of 2 Go to page. Thread starter ATX762; Start date Jul 21, 2017; 1; 2; Next. Thing is, IMHO, premium .308 rounds (Federal Premium & others) really make the .308 adequate for elk-size game. Go. However, the .308 has a slightly steeper shoulder angle (20 degrees vs 17.5 degrees). Similar knockdown power as the .270 with a … Jul 7, 2016 #3 Southern Elk Well-known member. Next Last. Any one of them will do 90% of what any other of them will do. You can see that the .270 is a much longer and skinnier cartridge than the .308. The difference is not, however, extraordinarily dramatic. Again, the above is for comparative information purposes only, and you should consult the exact ballistics for the particular .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum or .308 Winchester cartridge you're looking at purchasing. Apr 20, 2018 #1 J. jmustard Member. Sirmarduk.50 BMG Beiträge: 672 Registriert: Mo 27. Personally, I like the 7mm. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .308 Winchester ammo rounds. Foundry Outdoors is your trusted home for buying archery, camping, fishing, hunting, shooting sports, and outdoor gear online. I don't think any struck game animal would notice the difference, but in the 6.5 Creedmoor versus 270 Winchester velocity and energy races, the Winchester still wins.As for the Creedmoor's celebrated ability to resist wind deflection, the superior .625 B.C. The decision for which round is better for a given application should be made with complete information, and this article simply serves as a comparative guide, not the final say. As such, the following is for comparative information purposes only and should not be used to make precise predictions of the trajectory, performance, or true ballistics of any particular .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum or .308 Winchester rounds for hunting, target shooting, plinking, or any other usage. 7mm-08 vs 270, some thoughts. We’ll start with the .308 Winchester. Thank you! Nasty recoil? In Österreich wurde die .270 Win schon früher eingeführt, nachdem dort vor allem die 6,5×57 verbreitet war. We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. Danke und Gruß Absehen 4 . the 270 WSM starts out at 3000 fps while the 308 is barely above 2500 For energy the 270 starts out at 3100 while the 308 delivers 2650. Comments have to be approved before showing up, © 2021 Foundry Outdoors - All Rights Reserved, Product successfully added to your Shopping Cart, 223 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 243 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 25 WSSM Winchester Super Short Magnum Ammo, 300 RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, 7mm RSAUM Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum Ammo, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum vs .308 Winchester Ammo Comparison - Ballistics Info & Chart. Just remember that w/ the .270, you're pretty much limited to 140grain bullets. 1 of 2 Go to page. I feel the .308 has noticeably more recoil than a .243 or a 25-06 and far prefer the 25-06 for most shooting. The ballistics crap all over any .270, as well as any other .300 magnum on the market... winchester, weatherby, short-action smort-action. )und wenn mit welchen Geschossen. These diameters play a role in the weight of the bullets that are used by the two cartridges and in other performance specs that we will look at later in the article. Jul 7, 2016 #2 M. mtmuley Well-known member. Its fantastic at any range against deer, has excellent trajectory and devestating terminal ballistics. With the .308, you can go to 180 grain. Joined Jun 30, 2017 Messages 115 Location Austin, TX. For me, that choice was the .300 RUM (Rem Long Action UltraMag). I have been using the Nosler Ballistic tip 140gr. LM: Ja. Mitglied seit 29 Aug … I would suggest reconsidering the need for long-range hunting (above 400 m / 450 yards). That is to say, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum bullets travel 3.7 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while .308 … While a gun and the ammunition may be capable of sub-MOA accuracy, real-life hunting is not like shooting on a shooting stand. Die Kaliber wiesen bei Schüssen auf Haupt, Träger, Blatt und Kammer ähnliche Ergebnisse bezüglich der Fluchtdistanz auf. Jul 21, 2017 #1 A. ATX762 Senior Member. That is to say, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum bullets travel 3.7 times the speed of a 737 airplane at cruising speed, while .308 Winchester bullets travel 3 times that same speed. Hey I am sure there will be numerous answers and opinions but thats exactly what I'm looking for!! Our website lists special deals on 9mm Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 45-70 Ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor ammo, 300 Blackout Ammo, 10mm Ammo, 5.56 Ammo, Underwood Ammo, Buffalo Bore Ammo and more special deals on bulk ammo. I took his post to mean the .270 WSM would be his general purpose hunting rifle and the Savage .308 was set up for long range. For what you're describing, any of the .30-06, .308, 7mm mag or .270 along with their ballistic twins like the .270 WSM would be fine. Re: .270 Win vs. .308 - sinnvolles Kaliber? Weiter 270 WSM Kegel vergrößert L 6. I will first tell of my desires and inventory, then go on to my question. Thread starter jmustard; Start date Apr 20, 2018; 1; 2; Next. The end of this Season 270 vs 308. Die Patrone ist sehr dick und Reihenmagazine bieten deshalb meist nur wenig Kapazität. In Nordamerika war es sehr bald als d… stalkingbear: 05-04-2009 05:53 AM: RE: 270wsm vs 308?? Die Idee für diesen Artikel kam uns übrigens beim Lesen eines Jagdtagebuchs. For more detailed ballistics information please refer to the exact round in question or contact the manufacturer for the pertinent information. My cousin was right next to me [That's why you always treat it like it's loaded, kids] and it absolutely scared the shit out of me. Just because it can be done does not mean it makes sense, despite what you might read in advertising copy. Generally speaking, the higher the muzzle energy, the higher the stopping power. We have a variety of deals on Rifle Ammo, Handgun Ammo, Shotgun Ammo & Rimfire Ammo, as well as ammo for target practice, plinking, hunting, or shooting competitions. Beitrag von Sirmarduk » Fr 31. Nach oben. Beitrag von lüftl » Fr 10. Bei Schüssen auf Haupt und Träger lagen die Sauen im Knall. .308 Win Beiträge: 322 Registriert: So 1. Der Vergleich der .270 Win., .308 Win., .30-06, .300 Win. As a rule of thumb, when it comes to hunting, muzzle energy is what many hunters look at when deciding on what caliber of firearm / ammunition to select. One way to think about this is as such: a foot-pound is a unit of energy equal to the amount of energy required to raise a weight of one pound a distance of one foot. Next Last. Wenn man eine .270 WSM "zähmen" möchte, um sie auch für den Gebrauch auf schwaches Wild oder auf kurze Distanzen brauchbar zu machen, empfehle ich die Norma Oryx oder andere härtere Geschosse. Please click the above links to take a look at all of the .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum and .308 Winchester ammo we have in stock and ready to ship, and let us know any parting thoughts in the comment section below. So it is 6 one, half-dozen the other. Just like with the 270 WSM vs 270 Winchester, 7mm WSM vs 7mm Rem Mag, and 300 WSM vs 300 Win Mag, the .338 Win Mag is significantly longer than the 325 WSM. I am shooting a Tikka 270. I can take my X-bolt 270wsm or my remington XCR tactical on my combo elk/bear hunt this fall, the 140gr accubond is moving 3000 fps with 2900 ft lbsversus 308 169 Grain TTSX @2600fps and 2600ft lbs energy. . Go. Mag., 7×64 und 8×57 IS brachte in Bezug auf die Augenblickswirkung keinen Favoriten hervor. Hier Norma .270 WSM 8,42g - 130grs Nosler Ballistic Tip Büchsenmunition kaufen ! How does it do against whitetail, pigs, etc. Ein Nachteil hat die .270 WSM jedoch, welchen ich hier nicht verschweigen möchte. Dez 2010, 10:11. Dann liegt meine maßhaltige Geschoß im mindesten Kegel an. capreolus. Thing is, IMHO, premium .308 rounds (Federal Premium & others) really make the .308 adequate for elk-size game. Dabei kamen wir zu dem Ergebnis, dass die durchschnittliche Schussdistanz auf Ansitz, Pirsch und Drückjagd bei 78 Meter und das durchschnittliche Wildbretgewicht bei 34 Kilogramm lag. The 7mm-08 case is just slightly longer than the parent .308—2.035 inches vs. 2.015 inches—but maintains the same 20-degree shoulder of the .308 Winchester. Nosler vs Hornady for 270. From the data I have here, it appears the .270 WSM only has a 80-100 fps lead on the standard .270 which means it is at best only going to extend your shootable distance 25 yards or so. Anybody have any experience with the .270 WSM? If you're going to shoot game at long ranges then you're going to have to shoot a lot to do it ethically. Feb 2017, 09:16 Hallo Zeusentlein, ich bin zwar kein Jäger, habe aber mehrere Jäger in meiner Bekanntschaft und unterstütze diese bei Ihrer Wiederladerei und bekomme daher auch die Ergebnisse auf direktem Wege mit. Joined Jan 11, 2009 Messages 6,935 Location montana. Two rifles that are known to compete against each other. Dez 2010, 14:51 Die 270 ist eine Weiterentwicklung der .30-06 stimmt. They are pretty much the same cartridge. JavaScript is disabled. With a 35˚ shoulder, and a 2.100″ case—the same as the .308 Winchester—the .270 WSM performs as advertised, giving a 200-250 fps advantage over its older sibling.